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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-22396</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An alternative summary of this meeting, as a PDF, is available from the Federation of Cambridge Residents Associations website at:


http://www.fecra.org.uk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An alternative summary of this meeting, as a PDF, is available from the Federation of Cambridge Residents Associations website at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fecra.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fecra.org.uk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-21437</link>
		<dc:creator>David Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We must be very careful that we do not return to the position where only rich men (and it will be largely men) are able to be MPs. Pay for MPs was introduced so that ordinary people would be able to stand, not just those with private incomes or private fortunes (or rich backers pulling their strings as we see in the USA). As it is, we are seeing a situation where parliament is filled with "professional politicians" - candidates such as Richard Normington, whose career is spent in Central Office, lobbyists' offices, "think tanks" and the like. If we get trade unionists, they will be people who have worked as administrators in unions, rather than worked in jobs and simply been members of trade unions. We will have the odd barrister or journalist (who can carry on earning a supplementary income whilst being an MP). And we will have row after row of people with no hinterland, no experience of anything other than meetings and focus-groups, who speak that horrible business-speak of consultants rather than any language known to those who vote for them. If we do not give MPs decent redundancy payments (and redundancy payments in general are "ageist", Richard, in that the calculation changes according to the age of the person made redundant - I assume the theory correctly being that it is harder to get another job the older you are), then we should not be surprised when those MPs turn up as "consultants" or "non-exercutive directors", explaining to businesses and banks how to play the system, or renting out their name to put on the notepaper. Which decent and capable citizens in their right minds are going to want to be an MP if all they get is press intrusion into every aspect of their lives, a fairly low salary and the chance of being thrown out at the whim of the electorate with a few weeks wages. Perhaps we should bring in the last of the Chartists' demands - annual parliaments. You might find good people who would be willing to take a year or two off to run the country, and it would at least stop them becoming institutionalised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must be very careful that we do not return to the position where only rich men (and it will be largely men) are able to be MPs. Pay for MPs was introduced so that ordinary people would be able to stand, not just those with private incomes or private fortunes (or rich backers pulling their strings as we see in the USA). As it is, we are seeing a situation where parliament is filled with &#8220;professional politicians&#8221; - candidates such as Richard Normington, whose career is spent in Central Office, lobbyists&#8217; offices, &#8220;think tanks&#8221; and the like. If we get trade unionists, they will be people who have worked as administrators in unions, rather than worked in jobs and simply been members of trade unions. We will have the odd barrister or journalist (who can carry on earning a supplementary income whilst being an MP). And we will have row after row of people with no hinterland, no experience of anything other than meetings and focus-groups, who speak that horrible business-speak of consultants rather than any language known to those who vote for them. If we do not give MPs decent redundancy payments (and redundancy payments in general are &#8220;ageist&#8221;, Richard, in that the calculation changes according to the age of the person made redundant - I assume the theory correctly being that it is harder to get another job the older you are), then we should not be surprised when those MPs turn up as &#8220;consultants&#8221; or &#8220;non-exercutive directors&#8221;, explaining to businesses and banks how to play the system, or renting out their name to put on the notepaper. Which decent and capable citizens in their right minds are going to want to be an MP if all they get is press intrusion into every aspect of their lives, a fairly low salary and the chance of being thrown out at the whim of the electorate with a few weeks wages. Perhaps we should bring in the last of the Chartists&#8217; demands - annual parliaments. You might find good people who would be willing to take a year or two off to run the country, and it would at least stop them becoming institutionalised.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-21362</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &lt;a href="http://www.public-standards.gov.uk/OurWork/MPs__Expenses_and_Allowances_x.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Committee on Standards in Public Life Report on MPs' Expenses and Allowances&lt;/a&gt; published on the 4th of November 2009 has recommended a change to the system. Paragraph 26 of the report states:
&lt;blockquote&gt;When MPs leave office they are entitled to redundancy pay in the form of a resettlement grant. Unlike most  redundancy arrangements, the grant is paid to all MPs leaving Parliament at dissolution, including those who go voluntarily for retirement or other reasons. We recommend that, starting immediately after the next election, only those whose departure is involuntary should receive the grant. MPs who stand down voluntarily should instead receive an additional eight weeks’ pay to assist with the transition and to cover the time they spend on bringing their parliamentary work to a close. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Recommendation 30 summarises the above. Recommendation 31 states: "The resettlement grant should be paid at a rate of one month’s salary for each year of service as an MP up to a maximum of nine months’ salary, as proposed by the SSRB (Senior Salaries Review Board)".

The &lt;a href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200708/cmselect/cmmemest/578/578iiw16.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;current system&lt;/a&gt; is ageist (the amount paid varies depending on the age of the MP, and on the number of years served; the scheme can pay up to a year's salary to an MP who loses an election which I feel is not right). 

I think the current system is wrong, it is far too generous and inequitable. The nature of the role of an MP is that every-time there is a general election MPs know they may be booted out of office by their electorate. Individuals need to plan for that eventuality themselves, they are not in a particularly special position, many have people, for example the self-employed,  live on incomes which might disappear with little or no notice.  

MPs may "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiltern_Hundreds" rel="nofollow"&gt;resign&lt;/a&gt;" decide not to stand again, or they may lose an election. Those are the only options. Even if they are deselected by their party they can still stand, and as Ken Livingstone and others have shown, those who  deselected by parties can still stand for elected office and win. There is always notice that an election is impending. 

The only payment at the end of a term of office I think could be defensible would be a small payment to enable transfer of casework; perhaps enough to keep a member of office staff employed for an extra month or two, or to enable the MP themselves to carry out that work. 

There may be interesting consequences if the recommendations in the Standards in Public Life Report are adopted. MPs may be more willing to rebel against their parties, especially when they are thinking of retiring as being thrown out rather than retiring will result in a financial benefit to them. Also, as the recommendations will only come in for the next Parliament, it may encourage even more MPs to stand down before the next general election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.public-standards.gov.uk/OurWork/MPs__Expenses_and_Allowances_x.html" rel="nofollow">Committee on Standards in Public Life Report on MPs&#8217; Expenses and Allowances</a> published on the 4th of November 2009 has recommended a change to the system. Paragraph 26 of the report states:</p>
<blockquote><p>When MPs leave office they are entitled to redundancy pay in the form of a resettlement grant. Unlike most  redundancy arrangements, the grant is paid to all MPs leaving Parliament at dissolution, including those who go voluntarily for retirement or other reasons. We recommend that, starting immediately after the next election, only those whose departure is involuntary should receive the grant. MPs who stand down voluntarily should instead receive an additional eight weeks’ pay to assist with the transition and to cover the time they spend on bringing their parliamentary work to a close. </p></blockquote>
<p>Recommendation 30 summarises the above. Recommendation 31 states: &#8220;The resettlement grant should be paid at a rate of one month’s salary for each year of service as an MP up to a maximum of nine months’ salary, as proposed by the SSRB (Senior Salaries Review Board)&#8221;.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200708/cmselect/cmmemest/578/578iiw16.htm" rel="nofollow">current system</a> is ageist (the amount paid varies depending on the age of the MP, and on the number of years served; the scheme can pay up to a year&#8217;s salary to an MP who loses an election which I feel is not right). </p>
<p>I think the current system is wrong, it is far too generous and inequitable. The nature of the role of an MP is that every-time there is a general election MPs know they may be booted out of office by their electorate. Individuals need to plan for that eventuality themselves, they are not in a particularly special position, many have people, for example the self-employed,  live on incomes which might disappear with little or no notice.  </p>
<p>MPs may &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiltern_Hundreds" rel="nofollow">resign</a>&#8221; decide not to stand again, or they may lose an election. Those are the only options. Even if they are deselected by their party they can still stand, and as Ken Livingstone and others have shown, those who  deselected by parties can still stand for elected office and win. There is always notice that an election is impending. </p>
<p>The only payment at the end of a term of office I think could be defensible would be a small payment to enable transfer of casework; perhaps enough to keep a member of office staff employed for an extra month or two, or to enable the MP themselves to carry out that work. </p>
<p>There may be interesting consequences if the recommendations in the Standards in Public Life Report are adopted. MPs may be more willing to rebel against their parties, especially when they are thinking of retiring as being thrown out rather than retiring will result in a financial benefit to them. Also, as the recommendations will only come in for the next Parliament, it may encourage even more MPs to stand down before the next general election.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Rodgers</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-21361</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Rodgers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not true - MPs get the same "resettlement allowance" whether they stand down at a General Election or are voted out (http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/rp2008/rp08-031.pdf, section 13).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true - MPs get the same &#8220;resettlement allowance&#8221; whether they stand down at a General Election or are voted out (http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/rp2008/rp08-031.pdf, section 13).</p>
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		<title>By: Jez McEwan</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-21353</link>
		<dc:creator>Jez McEwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if he would have been reelected next year - in 2005 there were students queuing round the block to vote Lib Dem following the introduction of top-up tuition fees and the ongoing Iraq war (both massive issues for city residents too). That won't be the same in spring.

Outgoing MPs also get a nice golden goodbye if they step down, rather than voted out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if he would have been reelected next year - in 2005 there were students queuing round the block to vote Lib Dem following the introduction of top-up tuition fees and the ongoing Iraq war (both massive issues for city residents too). That won&#8217;t be the same in spring.</p>
<p>Outgoing MPs also get a nice golden goodbye if they step down, rather than voted out.</p>
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		<title>By: David Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-21345</link>
		<dc:creator>David Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a pity that parliament will be losing one of the few MPs who seem to have come out of the furore about expenses with an umimpaired reputation. I had assumed David Howarth would have been re-elected fairly comfortably. I wonder if Richard Normington would have made the same decision to stand down as a candidate had he known this (of course, it may well been common knowledge in political circles for some time before it was made public).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a pity that parliament will be losing one of the few MPs who seem to have come out of the furore about expenses with an umimpaired reputation. I had assumed David Howarth would have been re-elected fairly comfortably. I wonder if Richard Normington would have made the same decision to stand down as a candidate had he known this (of course, it may well been common knowledge in political circles for some time before it was made public).</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy Price</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-21161</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears David Howarth will be standing down at the General Election also. http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/cn_news_cambridge/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=461570</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears David Howarth will be standing down at the General Election also. <a href="http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/cn_news_cambridge/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=461570" rel="nofollow">http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/cn_news_cambridge/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=461570</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20659</link>
		<dc:creator>David Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good of Richard Normington to comment on his position. A pity - if unsurprising - that he didn't feel able to explain his reasons for standing down as the PPC for Cambridge so abruptly. And good of Andrew Bower to remind us that the Conservatives are currently blocking housing development throughout the south of England and telling people to "wait until after the election".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good of Richard Normington to comment on his position. A pity - if unsurprising - that he didn&#8217;t feel able to explain his reasons for standing down as the PPC for Cambridge so abruptly. And good of Andrew Bower to remind us that the Conservatives are currently blocking housing development throughout the south of England and telling people to &#8220;wait until after the election&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20613</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So he is presumably in favour of ID cards (albeit non-compulsory) then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So he is presumably in favour of ID cards (albeit non-compulsory) then?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20604</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel Zeichner has written back to me on the question of ID Cards. 

He said:

*While he explained the government position at the No2ID meeting that didn't mean he agreed with it. 

*He is against compulsory ID cards. 

*He wants a less polarised debate aimed at finding the correct balance between "the benefits that advanced IT systems offer" and the "understandable demands for privacy".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel Zeichner has written back to me on the question of ID Cards. </p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>*While he explained the government position at the No2ID meeting that didn&#8217;t mean he agreed with it. </p>
<p>*He is against compulsory ID cards. </p>
<p>*He wants a less polarised debate aimed at finding the correct balance between &#8220;the benefits that advanced IT systems offer&#8221; and the &#8220;understandable demands for privacy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Bower</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20582</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Bower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An article today in the Guardian by Grant Shapps MP, &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/29/nimbys-housing-house-building" rel="nofollow"&gt;Turn Nimbys to Yimbys on housing&lt;/a&gt;, addresses the question of the effect of local empowerment on the acceptance of housing developments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An article today in the Guardian by Grant Shapps MP, <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/29/nimbys-housing-house-building" rel="nofollow">Turn Nimbys to Yimbys on housing</a>, addresses the question of the effect of local empowerment on the acceptance of housing developments.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellee</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20579</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great reporting yet again Richard. You are an ace news blogger. I was sad to hear that Richard Normington is standing down as a Conservative parliamentary candidate for Cambridge, especially as he took the trouble to respond to your article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great reporting yet again Richard. You are an ace news blogger. I was sad to hear that Richard Normington is standing down as a Conservative parliamentary candidate for Cambridge, especially as he took the trouble to respond to your article.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Normington</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20554</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Normington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, thanks for this summary.  Just few clarifications on my comments and very small in the sum total of your work.

*£1.8m is spent by councils on compliance with central government

This is the average cost per council, not a national total.


*He said that the level of council tax was currently too low

Right now, we should be looking at how to keep taxes down across the board.

For council tax, the gearing effect means that to raise money you see a disproportionate increase in council tax rates to achieve modest rises in overall spending.  

The proportion of local authority funding coming from local sources has fallen over the last century, with a major fall taking place when the community charge/poll tax was abolished. However, council tax has proved to be a great stealth tax for central government as Whitehall could blame local authorities for rises, even if when they were to meet new duties being placed on them by central government [eg moving licencing from the magistrates to the local authorities].


*The chairman introduced this question speaking of a trip he had made to china where he had visited an area where there were first just roads, then on his return saw a complete town.

That was me, not the chairman, discussing a friend’s visit.  The point was to show that you can put infrastructure in place first – but I do not support the Chinese Development Control system!  The ‘bridge to nowhere’ criticism is misplaced and unhelpful when infrastructure is in place early.


*From the comments section, David Vincent “thought Normington was essentially against a congestion charge himself.”

Yes, I am 100% against congestion charging, as I hope my successor will be.

Richard Normington</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, thanks for this summary.  Just few clarifications on my comments and very small in the sum total of your work.</p>
<p>*£1.8m is spent by councils on compliance with central government</p>
<p>This is the average cost per council, not a national total.</p>
<p>*He said that the level of council tax was currently too low</p>
<p>Right now, we should be looking at how to keep taxes down across the board.</p>
<p>For council tax, the gearing effect means that to raise money you see a disproportionate increase in council tax rates to achieve modest rises in overall spending.  </p>
<p>The proportion of local authority funding coming from local sources has fallen over the last century, with a major fall taking place when the community charge/poll tax was abolished. However, council tax has proved to be a great stealth tax for central government as Whitehall could blame local authorities for rises, even if when they were to meet new duties being placed on them by central government [eg moving licencing from the magistrates to the local authorities].</p>
<p>*The chairman introduced this question speaking of a trip he had made to china where he had visited an area where there were first just roads, then on his return saw a complete town.</p>
<p>That was me, not the chairman, discussing a friend’s visit.  The point was to show that you can put infrastructure in place first – but I do not support the Chinese Development Control system!  The ‘bridge to nowhere’ criticism is misplaced and unhelpful when infrastructure is in place early.</p>
<p>*From the comments section, David Vincent “thought Normington was essentially against a congestion charge himself.”</p>
<p>Yes, I am 100% against congestion charging, as I hope my successor will be.</p>
<p>Richard Normington</p>
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		<title>By: David Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems a bit sudden. Obviously there is serious disarray in the local Conservative ranks. I can't say I was especially impressed by Normington - his CV is markedly short of real jobs and studded with work for "research groups" and similar solely political roles - I am sure we will see him in a safer seat all too soon (unless of course he has been put off by the diminishing financial propsects of being an MP). Having said that, I thought Normington was essentially against a congestion charge himself. Cambridge is the sort of place that might be impressed by the idea of an open primary. Or indeed by an all-woman shortlist. However, I don't get the impression the local conservative association will show much imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems a bit sudden. Obviously there is serious disarray in the local Conservative ranks. I can&#8217;t say I was especially impressed by Normington - his CV is markedly short of real jobs and studded with work for &#8220;research groups&#8221; and similar solely political roles - I am sure we will see him in a safer seat all too soon (unless of course he has been put off by the diminishing financial propsects of being an MP). Having said that, I thought Normington was essentially against a congestion charge himself. Cambridge is the sort of place that might be impressed by the idea of an open primary. Or indeed by an all-woman shortlist. However, I don&#8217;t get the impression the local conservative association will show much imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20509</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Normington has &lt;a href="http://conservativehome.blogs.com/goldlist/2009/10/richard-normington-resigns-as-ppc-for-cambridge.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;since resigned as the prospective Conservative Candidate for Cambridge&lt;/a&gt;. 

Will there be Conservative open primary for Cambridge?

Without Normington there is a clear vacancy for a candidate who thinks that investment in transport infrastructure accompanying the growth of Cambridge ought not be conditional on a congestion charge.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Normington has <a href="http://conservativehome.blogs.com/goldlist/2009/10/richard-normington-resigns-as-ppc-for-cambridge.html" rel="nofollow">since resigned as the prospective Conservative Candidate for Cambridge</a>. </p>
<p>Will there be Conservative open primary for Cambridge?</p>
<p>Without Normington there is a clear vacancy for a candidate who thinks that investment in transport infrastructure accompanying the growth of Cambridge ought not be conditional on a congestion charge.</p>
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		<title>By: David Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20508</link>
		<dc:creator>David Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with all the views as to the value of this site. It is very worrying that the paucity of local news outlets mean that we seem to depend so much on the efforts of one individual. Having said that, I don't think we can accuse Richard of lacking "partisan politics". Lacking party politics, certainly. The important thing is that he generally makes it pretty clear where his reporting ends and his own views begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with all the views as to the value of this site. It is very worrying that the paucity of local news outlets mean that we seem to depend so much on the efforts of one individual. Having said that, I don&#8217;t think we can accuse Richard of lacking &#8220;partisan politics&#8221;. Lacking party politics, certainly. The important thing is that he generally makes it pretty clear where his reporting ends and his own views begin.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20493</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
It's all very well to say blogs don't kill off local newspapers, but how many people are there like Richard Taylor who (commendably) gives up several hours a week for free to sit through interminable council meetings.
Not many and even fewer with the dedication, technological know-how and lack of partisan politics that Richard has.
Also one lawsuit and this site is history - unless Richard has a financial backer with deep pockets</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
It&#8217;s all very well to say blogs don&#8217;t kill off local newspapers, but how many people are there like Richard Taylor who (commendably) gives up several hours a week for free to sit through interminable council meetings.<br />
Not many and even fewer with the dedication, technological know-how and lack of partisan politics that Richard has.<br />
Also one lawsuit and this site is history - unless Richard has a financial backer with deep pockets</p>
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		<title>By: Morcom Lunt</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20339</link>
		<dc:creator>Morcom Lunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As main organiser of the meeting, and in view of posts above, can I make the point that David Howarth did not refuse to attend.  When possible dates for the meeting were sent out, David made it clear that he could not attend on 23rd October.  We had eight people whose calendars had to be matched and on the dates that David offered, there were three of the other seven who could not.  Reluctantly therefore we selected a date when we knew that David could not be present.  In Ian Nimmo Smith we had an eloquent speaker who is very knowledgeable on local affairs and well immersed in Liberal Democrat policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As main organiser of the meeting, and in view of posts above, can I make the point that David Howarth did not refuse to attend.  When possible dates for the meeting were sent out, David made it clear that he could not attend on 23rd October.  We had eight people whose calendars had to be matched and on the dates that David offered, there were three of the other seven who could not.  Reluctantly therefore we selected a date when we knew that David could not be present.  In Ian Nimmo Smith we had an eloquent speaker who is very knowledgeable on local affairs and well immersed in Liberal Democrat policies.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20156</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am grateful to Daniel Zeichner for those clarifications.

I am surprised to hear he has argued against the government policy on ID cards. In June 2007 I watched him defend ID cards at a No2ID meeting at Parkside; there too he appeared to me to be taking a position indistinguishable from that of the Government.  

I think it is increasingly likely, despite the &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2009/oct/21/labour-fourth-term-programme" rel="nofollow"&gt;views from the likes of Charles Clarke&lt;/a&gt;, that the Labour Party will not go into the next election still proposing a national ID Card scheme and database.  I hope the argument against them has already been won. Maybe that's wishful thinking.  

Zeichiner's &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/jul/08/politics.homeaffairs" rel="nofollow"&gt;view on the future of council housing is that there should be direct investment by the state rather than via housing associations or other intermediaries.&lt;/a&gt; 

A search for "trident" on Mr Zeichener's website reveals no results and I can't find his view via a Google search either. His policy page does state that he is proud of our current government for leading the debate on reducing our nuclear weapons stocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am grateful to Daniel Zeichner for those clarifications.</p>
<p>I am surprised to hear he has argued against the government policy on ID cards. In June 2007 I watched him defend ID cards at a No2ID meeting at Parkside; there too he appeared to me to be taking a position indistinguishable from that of the Government.  </p>
<p>I think it is increasingly likely, despite the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2009/oct/21/labour-fourth-term-programme" rel="nofollow">views from the likes of Charles Clarke</a>, that the Labour Party will not go into the next election still proposing a national ID Card scheme and database.  I hope the argument against them has already been won. Maybe that&#8217;s wishful thinking.  </p>
<p>Zeichiner&#8217;s <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/jul/08/politics.homeaffairs" rel="nofollow">view on the future of council housing is that there should be direct investment by the state rather than via housing associations or other intermediaries.</a> </p>
<p>A search for &#8220;trident&#8221; on Mr Zeichener&#8217;s website reveals no results and I can&#8217;t find his view via a Google search either. His policy page does state that he is proud of our current government for leading the debate on reducing our nuclear weapons stocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20149</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, when you say that you have "argued for changes to the policy on id-cards" can you clarify what you mean? Last time I heard you speak on this, at the meeting at Parkside a year or two ago, you seemed to put across the view that they and the database should go ahead and not be scrapped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, when you say that you have &#8220;argued for changes to the policy on id-cards&#8221; can you clarify what you mean? Last time I heard you speak on this, at the meeting at Parkside a year or two ago, you seemed to put across the view that they and the database should go ahead and not be scrapped.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Zeichner</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20145</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Zeichner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good account of the meeting, but just a couple of corrections! I was the speaker who compared the current powers of the city to a parish council. On your conclusion that I want the Government to carry on as is, I would take issue. I played a key role in the long battle to change the government's view on the future of council housing, getting involved in a tough fight with John Prescott - that was all out in public and documented. I first expressed concern about PFI back in 1996, and in the last week I have given public support to postal workers. I have argued for changes to the policy on id-cards and on Trident - so I would characterise my position as certainly wanting a Labour government, but a better Labour government, and one which I think many in Cambridge would support. Finally on Cambourne, my apology was for the upset caused to residents not on the essential point which I have made whenever asked, that it is essential to put transport plans in place at the same time as making housing decisions, not afterwards as in the case with Cambridge East.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good account of the meeting, but just a couple of corrections! I was the speaker who compared the current powers of the city to a parish council. On your conclusion that I want the Government to carry on as is, I would take issue. I played a key role in the long battle to change the government&#8217;s view on the future of council housing, getting involved in a tough fight with John Prescott - that was all out in public and documented. I first expressed concern about PFI back in 1996, and in the last week I have given public support to postal workers. I have argued for changes to the policy on id-cards and on Trident - so I would characterise my position as certainly wanting a Labour government, but a better Labour government, and one which I think many in Cambridge would support. Finally on Cambourne, my apology was for the upset caused to residents not on the essential point which I have made whenever asked, that it is essential to put transport plans in place at the same time as making housing decisions, not afterwards as in the case with Cambridge East.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20126</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Richard and how telling no sign of our MP - who has still not replied to my email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Richard and how telling no sign of our MP - who has still not replied to my email.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20119</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific article Richard. I'd like you to know that your blog is really appreciated by a lot of people.

Those who say that the internet is killing off local journalism (for that read "local newspapers"), and is therefore apparently a bad thing for democracy, should read blogs like this ...and compare what they provide with the non-existent discussion on local governance traditionally provided by the local press in cities such as Cambridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific article Richard. I&#8217;d like you to know that your blog is really appreciated by a lot of people.</p>
<p>Those who say that the internet is killing off local journalism (for that read &#8220;local newspapers&#8221;), and is therefore apparently a bad thing for democracy, should read blogs like this &#8230;and compare what they provide with the non-existent discussion on local governance traditionally provided by the local press in cities such as Cambridge.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/parliamentary-hustings-growth.html#comment-20117</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done, Richard. That looks to be a good synopsis of the meeting. 

But, I have to say that, having read it, all I want to do is sigh.

Why have we no candidate who cherry-picks the (obvious) best of the options and is prepared to stand up for those in front of their own party? 

At the moment, I fear we simply have party mouthpieces. 

Oh, and well done John 'Locutus' Hipkin - we need more like him.

(Where do we send our share of the £3 entry fee? ;) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, Richard. That looks to be a good synopsis of the meeting. </p>
<p>But, I have to say that, having read it, all I want to do is sigh.</p>
<p>Why have we no candidate who cherry-picks the (obvious) best of the options and is prepared to stand up for those in front of their own party? </p>
<p>At the moment, I fear we simply have party mouthpieces. </p>
<p>Oh, and well done John &#8216;Locutus&#8217; Hipkin - we need more like him.</p>
<p>(Where do we send our share of the £3 entry fee? <img src='http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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