Comments on: IPCC Says Police Complaints System Flawed and Underfunded

By: Malc

Malc — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:20:17 +0000

I used to work in the police as a pcso,and have made simple enquires on the Dorset Police website to my local snt,i had no reply,so sent to snt sgt,no reply sent to snt inspector,this went on and on.and I have been pushed from pillar to post,I have also questioned why a snt poster has not been changed since the snt pc left office 30 months ago.This is poor engagement by that snt,I also asked the local snt pcso what she has done in her community to help the vulnerable oap,as my father who is dying of cancer is vulnerable when he gets his pension, due to un desirables who hang outside the post office.i have been refused help by this superintendant and he has turned his back on me and my terminal ill father.I pay taxes for a service that Im not receiving,Police should remember they are a public service,and that they are there to serve and help the public,This superintendant is a disgrace to the uniform and not honouring his loyalty to upholding to the queens subjects. Who do these people think they are to treat members of the public with such a degree of negligence,they get beyond themselves with the high rank on there epaulets,they are in like a lawful gang so they can bully the public with there power.,
Does anyone know if he can do this,where is his accountability,and proportinality,do I not have rights,does my dying father not have the right to be protected,what is a Safer Neighbourhood Team being paid high wages for if they wont help.

By: S Adams

S Adams — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:32:28 +0000

The IPCC are so biased towards the police it is unbelieveable.They have a very poor reputation for being unhelpful for members of the public and this is fully justified.
They have absolutelly no intention of providing any assistance for the public at all, and their whole complaints system is set up completelly in favor of the police force and defending police officers rather than helping the complainant!
They are known to turn a blind eye to police misconduct and must work very closely with every forces “Professional Standards dept” to gloss over any misconduct and acts of incompetence.
The IPCC are very ineffective, biased and have no function other than defend and protect police officers.

By: mal snowden

mal snowden — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:18:31 +0000

For a period of four years I have been fighting to get the North Yorkshire Police to investigate my allegation of corruption against Police Officers. The I.P.C.C. are totally not interested. The Police Authority are not interested. If I cannot get an enquiry as a retired Police Officer,then what chance has a member of the public. If the Chief Constable does not wish an enquiry then there is absolutely nothing the IPCC can and will do. Neither will give any answer to my direct questions. These people are totally alien to the rights of justice.

By: Marcus Lasance

Marcus Lasance — Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:44:44 +0000

Its not just the problem where no individual officer can be identified that makes the IPCC ineffective as a custodiam of civil rights. I mustrust Len Jackson’s appetite to influence policy and counter balance IT lobby firms like APCO, who have seen to many RoboCop films.

This is what Len has to say about the subject of the illegal retention of DNA records by the UK Police Forces:

“The subject of DNA taking and retention is an important issue, one subject of considerable debate amongst MPs and Ministers. It is not, however, a conduct matter [SIC] but one for police force direction and control and as such comes under the jurisdiction of the Chief Constable and the Police Authority which employs him/her. The IPCC will not, therefor, express a view on the matter.”

SO why doesn’t he speak out in public and advise them to ‘consider’ the bad example the Police is setting by continuing to break human rights and data protection principles?

My guess is, he is too busy institutionalising the extraordinary powers the police already have amassed under anti terror legislation and doesn’t want to rock the boat.

By: neil terry

neil terry — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:12:10 +0000

We might ask why this serious issue is not being much researched or discussed in the press. Most people who have a complaint don’t complain. In terms of local policing our forces in the UK are useless and in terms of more national issues look too aggressive, biased and idiot-laden. Most find the IPCC even worse than the cops in covering-up. The whole shebang needs to be disestablished to allow real complaint and move policing to the areas we want.

By: Nick

Nick — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:10:57 +0000

It’s flawed and a completely biased system.

I have a complaint about a policeman in plain clothes not showing his Id card when it was asked.

The IPCC have swallowed the police idea that if you show your ID card after 20 minutes you have met the law. The law is clear, its that the “id card must be shown on demand”. The police have omitted the on demand part, editing the law, and because the IPCC refuse to enter into dialog with me, and will only talk to the police, they fall for it.

Similary when it comes to missing CCTV tapes, they just choose to ignore that part.

Nick

By: Brian Johnson

Brian Johnson — Tue, 26 May 2009 14:19:05 +0000

So, there are 9 out of 10 cases where the complainant says something along the lines of, “Well, the copper hit me over the head, but I didn’t get his number.”?

Or does ‘unsubstantiated’ cover cases where it is simply the word of the police officer against the complainant?