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	<title>Comments on: FOI Request - Powers of PCSOs in Cambridgeshire</title>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/foi-request-powers-of-pcsos-in-cambridgeshire.html/comment-page-1#comment-4807</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone from Solihull visited this article having asked Google : &lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&#038;q=i+am+a+pcso+what+powers+do+i+have&#038;meta=" rel="nofollow"&gt;I am a PCSO What Powers do I have&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone from Solihull visited this article having asked Google : <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&#038;q=i+am+a+pcso+what+powers+do+i+have&#038;meta=" rel="nofollow">I am a PCSO What Powers do I have</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/foi-request-powers-of-pcsos-in-cambridgeshire.html/comment-page-1#comment-4456</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have now &lt;a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/powers_of_pcsos_in_cambridgeshir#incoming-9463" rel="nofollow"&gt;finally been sent details of the agreement between Peterborough City Council and Cambridgeshire Police&lt;/a&gt; regarding PCSOs issuing local authority fixed penalty notices in Peterborough.  I have &lt;a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/powers_of_pcsos_in_cambridgeshir#incoming-9463" rel="nofollow"&gt;also been sent an agreement between Cambridge City Council and Cambridgeshire Police&lt;/a&gt;. 

The two documents which I have been sent appear to be out of date. It is not clear if the agreements the released documents describe have been renewed and are currently in effect. 

I find it very surprising that Cambridgeshire Constabulary do not hold a copy of an agreement with Huntingdonshire District Council as a draft of that agreement is available (&lt;a href="http://applications.huntsdc.gov.uk/moderngov/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=11317" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://applications.huntsdc.gov.uk/moderngov/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=11317&lt;/a&gt;). 

The agreement with Cambridge City Council states: &lt;blockquote&gt;"The Parties shall enter into negotiations with the aim of agreeing further terms with respect to the issuing of fixed penalty notices in relation to offences with respect to graffiti and littering; the further terms would authorise the issue of these notices by the police community support officers on behalf of the Council"&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As the police state they do not hold any other information in relation to my request this implies these negotiations were not successful and no agreement on the issuing of fixed penalty notices was reached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have now <a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/powers_of_pcsos_in_cambridgeshir#incoming-9463" rel="nofollow">finally been sent details of the agreement between Peterborough City Council and Cambridgeshire Police</a> regarding PCSOs issuing local authority fixed penalty notices in Peterborough.  I have <a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/powers_of_pcsos_in_cambridgeshir#incoming-9463" rel="nofollow">also been sent an agreement between Cambridge City Council and Cambridgeshire Police</a>. </p>
<p>The two documents which I have been sent appear to be out of date. It is not clear if the agreements the released documents describe have been renewed and are currently in effect. </p>
<p>I find it very surprising that Cambridgeshire Constabulary do not hold a copy of an agreement with Huntingdonshire District Council as a draft of that agreement is available (<a href="http://applications.huntsdc.gov.uk/moderngov/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=11317" rel="nofollow">http://applications.huntsdc.gov.uk/moderngov/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=11317</a>). </p>
<p>The agreement with Cambridge City Council states:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;The Parties shall enter into negotiations with the aim of agreeing further terms with respect to the issuing of fixed penalty notices in relation to offences with respect to graffiti and littering; the further terms would authorise the issue of these notices by the police community support officers on behalf of the Council&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>As the police state they do not hold any other information in relation to my request this implies these negotiations were not successful and no agreement on the issuing of fixed penalty notices was reached.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/foi-request-powers-of-pcsos-in-cambridgeshire.html/comment-page-1#comment-3375</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cambridgeshire Police have responded:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Richard,

We apologise for the August and September FOI's not being available. There
are a few technical issues but we will have them published very soon..

Kind regards,
Cambridgeshire Constabulary.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cambridgeshire Police have responded:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dear Richard,</p>
<p>We apologise for the August and September FOI&#8217;s not being available. There<br />
are a few technical issues but we will have them published very soon..</p>
<p>Kind regards,<br />
Cambridgeshire Constabulary.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/foi-request-powers-of-pcsos-in-cambridgeshire.html/comment-page-1#comment-3361</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote to Cambridgeshire Police letting them know:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
The links to documents from the August and September FOI disclosure logs do not work. Logs from earlier months do work. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote to Cambridgeshire Police letting them know:</p>
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The links to documents from the August and September FOI disclosure logs do not work. Logs from earlier months do work.
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/foi-request-powers-of-pcsos-in-cambridgeshire.html/comment-page-1#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have written to two local members of the Police Authority making them aware of the delays, which are not applying only to me. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr Wilkins and Olive Main,

I am writing you as relevant members of the Police Authority.  I am aware that one of the roles the police authority fulfills is reviewing Cambridgeshire Police's compliance with the Freedom of Information Act.  A lot of time, effort and money apparently goes into attempting compliance and auditing of the Police's performance in meeting its duties under the act.  I would like to draw your attention to the fact the police are currently informing those requesting information that it will take around two months for their request to be processed whereas the act requires a response to be made as rapidly as possible and in any case within twenty working days:

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/body/cambridgeshire_constabulary

In the case of my request for the powers of PCSOs in Cambridge to be released, I made the formal FOI request via the Whatdotheyknow.com website which puts the correspondence and released material in the public domain only after spending many months informally seeking the release of the information. For example on the 12th of September 2007 I got a commitment from the Chief Constable live on BBC Radio Cambridgeshire to publish the powers on the police website as other forces do however this was not followed up with action. I wrote to both of you on the 6th of October 2007 suggesting you ask the Chief Constable to follow up on her commitment.

I find it hard to get information out of the police, they appear to be institutionally secretive. As you can see from the Whatdotheyknow.com link it is not only my requests which are subject to illegal delays.  I also note that the leader of Cambridge City Council has been seeking the publication of the membership, dates, and minutes of the police run "Neighborhood Action Group" meetings in Cambridge for a number of months now, again without success. I doubt he has resorted to citing the FOI act in his requests, but he shouldn't have to, all requests for information should be dealt with under the terms of the act, it should have resulted in a culture change in public authorities, and in the case of Cambridgeshire Police it hasn't.

I hope this email helps bring some more depth and "colour" next time you are reviewing a bland table of numbers detailing the police force's FOI compliance performance.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have written to two local members of the Police Authority making them aware of the delays, which are not applying only to me. </p>
<blockquote><p>Mr Wilkins and Olive Main,</p>
<p>I am writing you as relevant members of the Police Authority.  I am aware that one of the roles the police authority fulfills is reviewing Cambridgeshire Police&#8217;s compliance with the Freedom of Information Act.  A lot of time, effort and money apparently goes into attempting compliance and auditing of the Police&#8217;s performance in meeting its duties under the act.  I would like to draw your attention to the fact the police are currently informing those requesting information that it will take around two months for their request to be processed whereas the act requires a response to be made as rapidly as possible and in any case within twenty working days:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/body/cambridgeshire_constabulary" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/body/cambridgeshire_constabulary</a></p>
<p>In the case of my request for the powers of PCSOs in Cambridge to be released, I made the formal FOI request via the Whatdotheyknow.com website which puts the correspondence and released material in the public domain only after spending many months informally seeking the release of the information. For example on the 12th of September 2007 I got a commitment from the Chief Constable live on BBC Radio Cambridgeshire to publish the powers on the police website as other forces do however this was not followed up with action. I wrote to both of you on the 6th of October 2007 suggesting you ask the Chief Constable to follow up on her commitment.</p>
<p>I find it hard to get information out of the police, they appear to be institutionally secretive. As you can see from the Whatdotheyknow.com link it is not only my requests which are subject to illegal delays.  I also note that the leader of Cambridge City Council has been seeking the publication of the membership, dates, and minutes of the police run &#8220;Neighborhood Action Group&#8221; meetings in Cambridge for a number of months now, again without success. I doubt he has resorted to citing the FOI act in his requests, but he shouldn&#8217;t have to, all requests for information should be dealt with under the terms of the act, it should have resulted in a culture change in public authorities, and in the case of Cambridgeshire Police it hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I hope this email helps bring some more depth and &#8220;colour&#8221; next time you are reviewing a bland table of numbers detailing the police force&#8217;s FOI compliance performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.rtaylor.co.uk/foi-request-powers-of-pcsos-in-cambridgeshire.html/comment-page-1#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I had made this request for information in the public forum of &lt;a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;whatdotheyknow.com&lt;/a&gt; I felt that once the statutory twenty days for a response had past I felt I ought to write to them to let them know I was not happy with the way my request had been dealt with:
&lt;blockqoute&gt;I note that the statutory timescale of twenty working days as defined by the Freedom of Information Act 2000 has now been exceeded.

I am not happy that Cambridgeshire Police propose to take around two months to release what I believe should be easily and rapidly accessible information. I have not been given an explanation for the delay.

I am aware the information I am requesting namely: "the powers given by the Chief Constable to PCSOs in Cambridgeshire" may be changing during the time it is taking Cambridgeshire Police to respond to my request. I am concerned that when I do get a response it may be out of date. While I do not wish to amend or clarify my request in any way, I hope you will be able to negate this concern when the information I am seeking is released.

As I am unhappy with the way my request has been handled, I would like to request a review. I look forward to a response within seven days as promised in the "Complaint Rights" document you attached.

If you release the information I requested within the next seven days I will withdraw my request for a review.

Richard Taylor

Cambridge &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I had made this request for information in the public forum of <a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com" rel="nofollow">whatdotheyknow.com</a> I felt that once the statutory twenty days for a response had past I felt I ought to write to them to let them know I was not happy with the way my request had been dealt with:<br />
<blockqoute>I note that the statutory timescale of twenty working days as defined by the Freedom of Information Act 2000 has now been exceeded.</p>
<p>I am not happy that Cambridgeshire Police propose to take around two months to release what I believe should be easily and rapidly accessible information. I have not been given an explanation for the delay.</p>
<p>I am aware the information I am requesting namely: &#8220;the powers given by the Chief Constable to PCSOs in Cambridgeshire&#8221; may be changing during the time it is taking Cambridgeshire Police to respond to my request. I am concerned that when I do get a response it may be out of date. While I do not wish to amend or clarify my request in any way, I hope you will be able to negate this concern when the information I am seeking is released.</p>
<p>As I am unhappy with the way my request has been handled, I would like to request a review. I look forward to a response within seven days as promised in the &#8220;Complaint Rights&#8221; document you attached.</p>
<p>If you release the information I requested within the next seven days I will withdraw my request for a review.</p>
<p>Richard Taylor</p>
<p>Cambridge </blockqoute></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cambridgeshire Police wrote to me to say:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I regret to inform you that Cambridgeshire Constabulary have not been able
to complete its response to your request by the date originally stated.

I now advise you that the amended date for a response is 24/09/08. I can
assure you that every effort will be made to ensure an appropriate response
will be made within this new timescale.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The FOI act requires that information is disclosed as quickly as possible, and in any case within twenty working days. Cambridgeshire Police are suggesting they are going to fail to comply with those requirements in what I consider to be a very straightforward request for information. 
Not only do Cambridgeshire Police have an "Information access office" but they also have systems in place for dealing with, and auditing their performance in response to FOI requests. I am appalled that despite this expensive infrastructure, simple requests are not being dealt with in a timely manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cambridgeshire Police wrote to me to say:</p>
<blockquote><p>I regret to inform you that Cambridgeshire Constabulary have not been able<br />
to complete its response to your request by the date originally stated.</p>
<p>I now advise you that the amended date for a response is 24/09/08. I can<br />
assure you that every effort will be made to ensure an appropriate response<br />
will be made within this new timescale.</p></blockquote>
<p>The FOI act requires that information is disclosed as quickly as possible, and in any case within twenty working days. Cambridgeshire Police are suggesting they are going to fail to comply with those requirements in what I consider to be a very straightforward request for information.<br />
Not only do Cambridgeshire Police have an &#8220;Information access office&#8221; but they also have systems in place for dealing with, and auditing their performance in response to FOI requests. I am appalled that despite this expensive infrastructure, simple requests are not being dealt with in a timely manner.</p>
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